tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post4715022242218376124..comments2024-01-25T11:04:22.147-05:00Comments on Wall Street Poker: Another word about tippingJamiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03234697190855955903noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-6604071117403594172007-09-21T21:15:00.000-04:002007-09-21T21:15:00.000-04:00I'm not down on bartenders, which is why I'm willi...I'm not down on bartenders, which is why I'm willing to pay them what they're worth. Unlike bar owners who pay them dick. Could you stay on point?Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234697190855955903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-63099964417752872332007-09-21T19:21:00.000-04:002007-09-21T19:21:00.000-04:00Ummm...Isn't that minimum wage of higher in this c...<I>Ummm...Isn't that minimum wage of higher in this country?</I><BR/><BR/>Ummm, yes. But a bartender that makes minimum wage in the US is doing something wrong.<BR/><BR/>UMMM.Karolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11041701734334499339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-67361004042681502302007-09-21T15:08:00.000-04:002007-09-21T15:08:00.000-04:00OK, maybe not everyone. Just my old boss.I'll shut...OK, maybe not everyone. Just my old boss.<BR/><BR/>I'll shut up now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-81291012414844583342007-09-21T15:06:00.000-04:002007-09-21T15:06:00.000-04:00"For the record, I am an excellent tipper because ..."For the record, I am an excellent tipper because I'm a generous person by nature."<BR/>-I never ever would have assumed otherwise!<BR/><BR/>I see your point and totally 100% agree with you in theory. Unfortunately the reality is unrealistic. And no, it's not fair at all. Remember I'm a culinary management graduate. There's a reason I don't own a restaurant - long hours, no life, very little money. Not just for servers but for everyone involved.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately I'd like everyone who deserves a good salary to get one, and everyone who doesn't deserve one to fall off the face of the planet. How can we swing that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-52329758127075906402007-09-21T14:03:00.000-04:002007-09-21T14:03:00.000-04:00Tae, I think you're missing my point. The thrust ...Tae, I think you're missing my point. The thrust of what I'm trying to say is not that bartenders are underpaid or not. It's that the income of servers shouldn't be determined by the arbitrary tips of the patrons. Better, in my mind, that their bosses pay them better and pass the cost to us in the price. For the record, I am an excellent tipper because I'm a generous person by nature. But it's not fair to my waiter/waitress that some people aren't.<BR/><BR/>And yes, minimum wage sucks and I would prefer seeing a hike in that standard. But that's really not in the scope of the conversation.Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234697190855955903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-29945929137169310492007-09-21T12:29:00.000-04:002007-09-21T12:29:00.000-04:00"Europeans get along fine with this system. Tippin..."Europeans get along fine with this system. Tipping is only 5-10% in most European countries, and even then only for extraordinary service." <BR/>- In Italy (I don't know about the rest of Europe) there is a line item for gratuity, per person! So you are being forced to pay a gratuity willy nilly.<BR/><BR/>"What did you want for being a bartender? A generous compensation package and an end of year bonus?"<BR/>-Are you being snarky or was that a serous comment? According to your philosophy that is what she deserves and then you wouldn't be obligated to tip: "I would much rather be charged a market rate for the food I am served with the proper living wage of the employee built into the price."<BR/>-Minimum wage is not a proper living wage. I believe at 40 hrs a week at federal min wage a person earns something like $11,000/year? My daughter makes just above minimum wage - she won't be moving out on that salary. Fortunately she has a few years to earn a raise. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-55096709968196522312007-09-21T10:37:00.000-04:002007-09-21T10:37:00.000-04:00making 4 pounds (like 6-7 bucks) an hour Ummm...Is...<I>making 4 pounds (like 6-7 bucks) an hour </I><BR/><BR/>Ummm...Isn't that minimum wage of higher in this country? What did you want for being a bartender? A generous compensation package and an end of year bonus?Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234697190855955903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-21612090515349039092007-09-21T01:50:00.000-04:002007-09-21T01:50:00.000-04:00"Europeans get along fine with this system."No, th..."Europeans get along fine with this system."<BR/><BR/>No, they don't. I was a bartender for 2 weeks, making 4 pounds (like 6-7 bucks) an hour and zero tips. Nightmare.Karolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11041701734334499339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-65599556367257950262007-09-20T17:14:00.000-04:002007-09-20T17:14:00.000-04:00Ooops, I forgot to add: Although I believe tipping...Ooops, I forgot to add: Although I believe tipping for good service is a good thing, its use is negligible when pooling is involved. Another bad practice run rampant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-70192232523109030782007-09-20T11:46:00.000-04:002007-09-20T11:46:00.000-04:00There's not enough room for me to explain why I be...There's not enough room for me to explain why I believe tipping at a restaurant is a good thing (for good service) and an essential practice in the restaurant industry. If you want restaurants to continue to operate, you're gonna have to have to put up with tipping. We'll talk about that when we talk about apple picking. :)<BR/><BR/>I heartily agree with you that the tip jar thing has gotten out of control, and it's where I drew the line. I don't tip at the coffee shop for takeout either, but I certainly will if I sit at the table and get good service throughout the course of a meal. <BR/><BR/>I almost blew coffee out my nose when I read your last line. That is horrifying. I'd complain. Loudly. To as many people as I could find. That is just gross.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560459146364075317.post-14256954404448944782007-09-20T10:10:00.000-04:002007-09-20T10:10:00.000-04:00Great blog. That last paragraph is shocking. The...Great blog. That last paragraph is shocking. The attendants should be embarrassed.<BR/><BR/>I'll throw stuff into the takeout buckets only occasionally. They still amuse me. It's like "Hey, if I wanted to tip, I would have had this delivered".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com